So im sat looking at the threads and im asking myself, surley these people cant be this damn stupid, the more i read the more im convinced, yes your are inface that damn stupid.

Lets go back to 04 when lvl mission rats used to give 1mil bounties per bs killed and 500k per bc killed, i also remeber my 0.0 main, there was alot of pvp because our alts made the ISK needed to keep up the fleets.
Then came the mission nerf because a bunch of no job pvp elite monkeys screamed loud enough and ccp was stupid enough to listen to them. And so PvP dropped off because our alts made about 1/4 of what we used to make on a daily basis, so pvp drops off, more people are ratting, mining in null trying to make isk, getting ships down. It started to go downhill from there.

Then Goons came and royally ****** null and empire up rather quickly.

Then incursions came, awsum way to make isk, but griefer corps rose to get *faction* battleship kills for the kb's.

I am also noteing how the *elite* griefers and pvpers who routinley mess up empire corps are now complaining about the lack of players in eve online. Ironic no? They very thing you complain about, you caused to happen, let me outline it for you.

You grief new corps daily, these corps shut down
New players quit because they cant join any corp without being blown up (forced pvp)
Tax rate on npc corp raised because *elite* griefers and pvp complain about a lack of targets
Market prices for basic t2 modules and ships rocket because there is now a lack of indy corps because they are routinly screwed over. Now the russians control the market.
No new recruits for pvp corps in null because empire griefer alts are making new players quit
0.0 regions (apart from hubs) become deadzones, player numbers drop off
Again all caused by the *pvp corps* themselves.
Empire can be busy but alot of the time now its not
Recruitment channel used to 1500-2000 on the weekends fri-monday now its more like 300-600 - again, people are now quitting because they are sick of being blown up.
New pvp corps die out because *elite* corps dec them and take them camping non stop

A friend of mine started playing two weeks ago, he has been in 6 corps since and each one has had random decs levelled at it and 1bil in isk ransom demanded. Should this be allowed to continue?

And now you jihading incursions, why? Because you screwed up null sec with your empire alts actions? Your griefer corps actions? So u attack another section of eve that brings in new corps? New players? Well done, another way of destroying the game.

I know im gonnaa get flamed and trolled, probbaly war decced as a result of this post. but here is my message to the pvpers of eve

YOU complain about the lack of the new players, corps, 0.0 warefare, YOU routinley grief new corps and alliances that could grow into massivley new alliances and pvp corps.

YOU have only YOURSELF to BLAME for the fact EvE Online MMO is dieing, because YOU, the PVP COMMUNITY, are to blame, you hark on about carebears, go ahead, but everyone starts out, or 90% do as carebears, YOU are the ones DESTROYING this game, you want the game to change? YOU have to chaneg your HABITS AND GRIEFING WARS to sink this in.

You have only yourself to blame. CCP is not at fault, the game is not at fault, the pvpers of eve are at fault, you want null sec to become fun again? Get out of empire and get back into eve pvp as it was ment to be played. Because after 07, eve become a slow dieing train and YOU the ELITE PVP GRIEFERS are to blame.

Go ahead n flame, the more u doe it, the more u prove my point. Your just to stupid to see your actions in the short term massivley effect the game in the longterm, narrow minded individuals.

And before i am called a *bear* and a *newb* I was in the orginal CA/5/BOB and have lived in null since 04 to 2010 when id finally had enuff, i have pvped in fast gangs,.bombers the works, so dont throw childish insults

Hoff Out

The horrible comments and downright rudeness simply project what is wrong with eve

Bottom line is, the majority of EvE Players are players banned from other mmos for the same kinda behaviour. Mostly because they are nerdy, overweight socially rejected children who still live with there mummies and daddies because theya re scared of the real world and subsequently live on eve online which in effect becomes there life

Nothing i said is untrue no matter how much anyone wishes it otherwise, this has to be said.

PvP in empire is killing EVE

EvE Online is a game and there are to many people who wake up, have no jobs, and spend there life on here making everyone elses life misrable, sumone has to stand up for that.